tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post8281558400526858537..comments2023-11-05T04:29:15.728-06:00Comments on The Seer Stone: The Science Behind Biblical Creation (Part 2 of 2)Evgeniihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05787950777870804904noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-25844273089665684542009-07-14T16:05:49.259-05:002009-07-14T16:05:49.259-05:00The creation you outline is based on the mainstrea...The creation you outline is based on the mainstream scientific moel of the big bang theory and fusion/fission star model. Both failed theories according to scientists and researchers advocating the electric universe theory. Check out www.thunderbolts.info. This theory is very consistent with teachings from Joseph Smith and other modern prophets and shows that McConkie may have been closer to the mark than we typically give him credit for.Trevorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05600121896816533789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-48502680662079867932009-04-12T11:24:00.000-05:002009-04-12T11:24:00.000-05:00Hey Bruce, I have three thoughts on the theory tha...Hey Bruce, <BR/><BR/>I have three thoughts on the theory that the earth may have been formed from parts of other earths.<BR/><BR/>1) The theory stems from a Joseph Smith quote that "this earth was organized or formed out of other planets which were broken up and remodeled and made into the one on which we live." The problem, however, is that this was hearsay from the journal of William Clayton. William McIntire was at that same sermon and recorded Joseph's thoughts differently: "Earth has been organized out of portions of other Globes that has ben Disorganized."<BR/><BR/>Obviously the difference lies between the use of the terms "planets" or "globes." The scientific creation explanation agrees with the interpretation that the elements of this earth did indeed come from other "globes" that were disorganized - a supernova is a fairly substantial disorganization.<BR/><BR/>2) It is reasonable to assume that our own earth is typical of what God does in preparing all worlds for His children. That said, after an inhabited world passes through its mortal state, it is not disorganized and thrown into a junk-pile for reuse elsewhere, but is rather resurrected and celestialized.<BR/><BR/>3) Fossil remains of plants and animals likley do not originate from fragments of other worlds because of the sequential way they are preserved in the Earth's strata. For example, fossilized plants and animals found at great distances from each other all over this Earth are found in equivalent strata, and in the same order within these strata. Were the Earth formed from bits and pieces of other planets, that would hardly be the case.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268015210205721725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-25249171356744839092009-04-11T19:20:00.000-05:002009-04-11T19:20:00.000-05:00If the earth were made from 2 or 3 earlier "earths...If the earth were made from 2 or 3 earlier "earths", then the fossil record could simply be the remnants of a former creation.<BR/>Indeed the scriptures never indicate that Adam was born here but, as Jeremy stated, he was "placed".Bruce in Montanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08480425208723630243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-79626360530818121322009-04-08T18:09:00.000-05:002009-04-08T18:09:00.000-05:00Well, according to several GA's, Adam was "created...Well, according to several GA's, Adam was "created" just like you and I were (I know, I know, I need cites - but I'm at work now). Now, we cannot claim this as doctrine, but since several have said it and, to my knowledge, none have given alternate interpretations, that throws a wrench in your evolving argument.<BR/><BR/>One of the best answers I recall reading somewhere is that Michael was literally "placed" in the Garden when he was ready to act as Adam. Thus, there were no pre-Adamites, as he was the first of his kind. However, there were pre-hominids, as scientific evidence shows.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268015210205721725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-35960082063157519122009-04-08T15:52:00.000-05:002009-04-08T15:52:00.000-05:00I could speculate on a couple things to fill the g...I could speculate on a couple things to fill the gap. <BR/><BR/>1) Man was still evolving and wasn't capable of having the necessary higher brain function to implement the test. Once these beings had proper functionality, God was able use these materials to organize Adam in his own likeness.<BR/><BR/>Sounds creepy, I know...but God is the perfect one to judge whether this is ethical as he understands the similarity and differences of spirit and matter.<BR/><BR/>2) 125K years is a long time...especially in light of the fact that our existence is only for ~7000 years. He could have sent through generations of the plan (we know other worlds are part of our plan, maybe this one was used likewise and not celestialized after). Most evidence of that would have hid itself, and any remaining is easily hidden in the ocean, underground, etc.<BR/><BR/>I know it is way out there...and these answers will never come in this life. Still fun to speculate though.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363921061955320539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-9886932391275750472009-04-08T09:19:00.000-05:002009-04-08T09:19:00.000-05:00That's why I premised that tidbit of info with "[l...That's why I premised that tidbit of info with "[l]aying religion aside for the moment, from the scientific perspective..."<BR/><BR/>Honestly, for people that think like myself (and I venture to guess yourself also) I don't think anyone has a really good answer for this. To my knoweldge, nothing has been explicitly revealed. <BR/><BR/>Nibley asserts that there were hominids before Adam, but explains that none shared a story before Adam. In other words, none had a relationship with God in any way and certainly did not write their history for later generations. I'm not sure how to tie that into revealed religion; I mean, were these beings God's children also? If so, why was there a general neglect?<BR/><BR/>These unanswered questions have not only perplexed us, but early leaders of the Church like Widtsoe, Talmadge, and Roberts. In the view of what science has explained, however, I see it naive to take a JFS/McConkie literalist view of the creation and sweep all the scientific evidence under the rug.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268015210205721725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-10949876166009780682009-04-07T21:57:00.000-05:002009-04-07T21:57:00.000-05:00Wow, part 2 already...you're making me look bad.So...Wow, part 2 already...you're making me look bad.<BR/><BR/>So, for the obvious question, what do you do with the ~119,000 year gap between homo sapien and Adam?Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363921061955320539noreply@blogger.com