tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post5447782426617588650..comments2023-11-05T04:29:15.728-06:00Comments on The Seer Stone: Pray Always, lest ye be Disfellowshipped?Evgeniihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05787950777870804904noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-52321719597494459542015-06-14T14:51:03.622-05:002015-06-14T14:51:03.622-05:00It would not be your "wife that rats you out&...It would not be your "wife that rats you out". Lol. <br /><br />In section 20 it is clearly arranged that the Aaronic priesthood keep the members in remembrance of their duty to pray. Since all Melchizedek priesthood holders also still hold the Aaronic priesthood, they are included in this duty with the further injunction to keep the oath and covenant (live by every word which proceeds from the mouth of God). Home Teaching then would be the proper time to remind, encourage, and persuade members to pray vocally and in secret. If after several visits, the member has demonstrated an unwillingness to pray in any form, then it would be very evident that the evil spirit had hold on them (2 Nephi 32:8) and it would be the home teachers priesthood duty to report this to the Bishop of the ward, or in other words, have him in remembrance before the judge of Israel. The Bishop could then lovingly call that person for a visit and determine through his priesthood keys whether that individual was unworthy of fellowship (which would limit callings, prayers, talks, and ordinance participation). A call and invite to repent would of course be issued. If heeded, any disfellowship would be short lived. This strikes me as being incredibly orderly and fair, just and merciful. Also, absolutely necessary to protect the body of Christ/the church from harboring unknowingly wolves in sheep's clothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-77651484659669705412010-08-05T12:55:25.383-05:002010-08-05T12:55:25.383-05:00I agree, Russ.
To me, the question is who outs ...I agree, Russ. <br /><br />To me, the question is who outs the prayer "trangressor" according to this scripture? Is it your spouse who goes to the Bishop and rats you out, or would this be more of an autonomous act?Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268015210205721725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-30346218518141254502010-08-05T09:58:51.695-05:002010-08-05T09:58:51.695-05:00I am just glad we are not forced to pray by a dail...I am just glad we are not forced to pray by a daily call to prayer. Prayer remains a private matter thank goodness.Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12774146427318731877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1938111942632962223.post-58339576612051269122010-08-02T09:40:25.687-05:002010-08-02T09:40:25.687-05:00If some kind of discipline ever did happen, I doub...If some kind of discipline ever did happen, I doubt it has been anytime recently. JFS was slightly draconian with his interpretation of the scriptures that has been largely abandoned by current leaders. This talk by him must have been overshadowed by his father's talk at the same conference (Section 138).Evgeniihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05787950777870804904noreply@blogger.com